Dear folks, there seems no end to the bad news and this was one of the worse and saddest. What a shock to all who loved her films and her ads for Petronas.
I have known Yasmin a long time, at least 20 years. I wouldn't say we were friends but we knew each other and certainly have many friends in common. Occasionally we have had disagreements but talent is talent and there is no doubt that Yasmin had oodles of that. Even though some said she could be too soppy, she did have a way of capturing the right note to touch our hearts.
This Petronas ad, the Love of Tan Hong Ming, is one of my favourites:
Perhaps one thing few people knew about Yasmin is that she was also a talented singer and pianist. Long long ago we used to listen to her sing jazzy numbers in that warm sultry voice of hers.
Now she is no more. Most Malaysians I am sure send their condolences to her family and wish that she may rest in peace. Unfortunately there are some truly low creatures at that despicable rag called Kosmo who are determined to defame her and her legacy. The family is devastated. Yasmin has hardly been buried and Kosmo has already started to publish all sorts of trash about her. To what end, except to sell their rag and make their readers even more stupid. Instead of honouring someone who has believed so much in what Malaysia and Malaysians can be, Kosmo has chosen instead to sully her reputation. Is there no decency among the editors and reporters there?
If you are equally disgusted by Kosmo, please protest and call for a boycott of them. Is this how we remember those who have served their country well? Is this OneMalaysia?
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Salam, Marina..
I seldom read Kosmo, unless pointed to or there's nothing left to read in the lobby. So the point of me boycotting it, is currently useless since I'm not contributing to hteir revenue stream.
But I can and may influence others to, provided I have enough evidence and reasoning power.
I went to its online site to see which article did you refer to, but I can't find it. can you provide the link or at least the article's title so we can read it ourselves?
Lizzam, it's not yet online but in the paper edition front page. Di Sebalik Berita I think. Please do influence others. The family is in need of love and support.
Kosmo and Utusan are only suitable to be used as cat litter.
Thank you. I'll try to source it out..
The damage is done as far as her family is concerned and utusan is an umno paper so it shall be protected till the end of time! Najib should should honor Yasmin as the legendary icon for one malaysia because she inspired us malaysians to love and be as one. Kosmo has hit rock bottom pits for doing this.
even animals would have more compassion...
Only for those with a positive thinking can value Yasmin effort creating 1 Malaysian. I adore Yasmin Ahmad for being a true Malaysian. Everytime I watch her work i can feel how close we are being a Malaysian. Beside the point wether you are Malay, Chinese, Indian etc...
The Government should value her work.
I told my friends at facebook...and they are shocked!!
How could..?!!
As a non-Malay, I know for sure that all of us simply adore and respect her highly. She has left behind a legacy of a truly peaceful and harmonious multi-racial Malaysia and we than her deeply.
Is this the article you're referring to www.manggaonline.com.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1817:yasmin-ahmad-dalam-kenangan&catid=34:berita-selebriti&Itemid=53?
I was privileged to work with Yasmin on a TV ad for SPCA late last year. Her donation of both her time and talent to help us was typical of her generous spirit... she will be greatly missed :-(
1. Al Fatihah to Yasmin Ahmad.
2. This is one of the reason why I stop reading Malay newspapers. The journalism has descended into tabloid-ism. Journalists write without thinking of consequences and for the sake of licking political asses (please pardon my language). What happened to responsibilities that come with the pen (or rather the keyboard)?
3. As Muslims, isn't it bad to speak ill of Allahyarham? Kosmo should be more tactful. How can we protest?
4. PM Najib should give a posthumous Datuk-ship to Yasmin Ahmad. Think about it. Hasn't Yasmin been advocating 1Malaysia long before PM Najib come up with that slogan?
5. I shall miss watching adverts/movies from Yasmin. Nobody can see the vision of a united Malaysia better than her. I've always look forward to her adverts during Hari Raya, Chinese New Year, Deepavali and most of all Hari Kebangsaan.
6. Dear Yasmin, you shall be missed.
May
KOSMO is garbage and so is Utusan Malaysia. The authorities do nothing which could mean they must have agreed to the contents. Yet they keep on harassing The Herald for using the word "Allah" to describe God. How can we progress as a civil society like this?
Yeah..we lost one of the talented person. Hola..nice to meet you. I am Deen from Pasir Mas. Visit my blog to see painting selling for charity.
Deen
Marina, I have long ago stop reading and watching the MSM.
Yasmin Ahmad is one of the best mind of the country. A gem of a person who single handed brought up the Malaysian movie to another level.
Her movies are truly Malaysian so are those 29 seconds advertisement that we watch on our TV.
Malaysia lost a great daughter of the country. A true patriot indeed.
May She rest in Peace. Ameen.
..tell them that is human nature.why why.God Save Malaysia
Yasmin will be missed.
She lit the path to a more inclusive and colour-blind Malaysia for the rest of us to journey upon.
Why am I not surprised at KOSMO? As part of the Utusan's media group, this is just a case of birds of a yellow feather flocking together.
ms marina,like your comment in your visit to Republic Indonesia Jakarta......very interesting as i share your view regarding indon maids as i was staying there half of my life.........haha
Yes! We(my family n some friends) were all so shocked and saddened by the news of yasmin's demise. We have truly been blessed to have been able to see some of her fabulous work (eg Petronas sponsored ads on TVand movies like "Sepet")on how to build on racial harmony and unity in this great nation of ours. Our country has lost a truly fine and talented person who shall forever remain positively &fondly in our memories n highly respected and regarded till eternity. She shall be forever missed !
if you go to the late yasmin's blog. in february this year, she wrote an article titled 'please spread this little film'.
that article is based on my son. in her own words, yasmin said, we are going to recieve a lot of flack. we did and mostly from kosmo readers. frustrating.
Dear Marina... didn't u always cakap pasal gender equality and equity...I rasa article kat kosmo tu tak cakap pun pasal keburukan Yasmin... In fact... the news is totally lame and respectful.
no gender bias... just for knowledge... all my friends yang baca kosmo hari nie.. tak ada bad comment pun pasal dia nyer gender, cuma cerita pasal his contribution towards country and film industry.
Tak ada yang memalukan pun being Yasmin... I respect him as much as he is man or woman.
no need to boycott the news paper... i think their intention is to give full information about who is Yasmin from womb to tomb. full biografi about yasmin should be considered... not only bila dia dah famous jer... people need to know..
Al-fatihah untuk Allahyarham YAsmin AHmad.
hi.. i saw the newspaper just now, and god i was furious..She was just being buried and yet they have guts to do that, and how insensitive to her family.. arent we supposed to pray for God's protection and blessings for her? Shame on Kosmo.
rest well, yasmin.. may Allah bless you
"3. As Muslims, isn't it bad to speak ill of Allahyarham? Kosmo should be more tactful. How can we protest? "
Prior to protesting, to be properly PC or tactful or sensitive, you may want to use, and recommend the use of the gender neutral pronoun "arwah".
Otherwise, aren't you implying the same thing as the article?
MM, that's why I said your pathetic tiny public forum once in a while is useless as long as these kind of newspapers exist and continue to influence majority of your community (vast majority of them don't read newspapers in other languages) in this country. Millions of them are already brain-washed to irreversible proportion. You can't change them. All these are done thanks to policies of your beloved father during his 22 year reign over this country =.=
Salaam MaM,
Haven't been dropping by here for awhile, and it was a pleasure to bump into you at the CSR Book launch event.
I haven't read Kosmo, went online and haven't found anything bad yet. Will definitely get it soon before I can trash these stupid reporters.
I received her last sms on Wednesday morning, 3 profound words, "Allah loves you". Yasmin has been a spiritual influence to me and I guess for many others. Her funeral was Exhibit A of OneMalaysia and Unity Exist! We see the non-muslims cladded in tudung and decently uniformed in baju melayu, eyes all read, sharing her love. It was one of the most beautiful funerals I've been to.
I wished I could've gotten the privilege to hear her sing, since I'm a hardcore jazz fan.
She left us to love each, and thats the best thing she has made out of all of us. I wrote a little note for her on facebook, too bad I can't access to you to have you read it. ;)
p/s:- She is another one I call "Ma'am" aside from you whom I call "MaM" - for obvious reasons. ;)
Salaam to all, God bless.
KOSMO is a prove that in the real world out there...the Malays kill the Malays. Melayu...tak senang tengok orang senang.
For such a lovely lady with such great talent, Yasmin does not deserve such treatment. Not at all.
Well, damage done...too bad. But I'm sure a lot of other people out there realise that Yasmin was a lady who made a lot of us proud to be Malaysian. Her creativity in expressing love in her advertisements and movies as well as highlighting the truth of our daily lifestyle (which not many has the courage to do so) has touched many hearts.
There will no longer be anymore ads or movies so catchy like the one featuring the cute little Tan Hong Meng. :(
We will miss you, Yasmin Ahmad. But, you have gone to meet the Divine. You're now at the best place. May you rest in peace. Amin.
Al-Fatihah.
I never knew Kak Yasmin personally but I watched her movies everytime they came out to cinema. Even though my dad too didn't really approved her talents but I do! I think she's a genius like MJ, trying to kill the barrier of racism through her films while MJ did it through his music and they were both hated by people. It's normal that when people do good and they are hated these days Kak Marina. I wonder what if death comes to invite those haters 'home'? What will they answer God for the bad-mouth they did to Kak Yasmin and other bunch of good people just to satisfy their own hearts?
Apa nak jadi pada negara ini kalau kita sudah menghalalkan seorang lelaki menjadi wanita, inikah kebebasan yang kita mahukan, maka barat sudah berjaya menjajah kita kembali.
Saya kecewa dengan anda Marina sebagai anak bekas PM anda memalukan Islam, anda tidak layak mempertahankan seorang pondan !
Adakah anda menyokong kewujudan cinta sejenis, lesbian, gay perkahwinan sesama jantina, tahniah !!!
Kosmo has stooped so low... I can't believe they actually did that.
Kosmo is garbage. Everyone knows that.
I rather read Yasmin's Storyteller. It is so sad now we won't get to read her blog postings anymore. Her blog and your blog are the only ones I bookmark for reading.
I see Yasmin as a person with tons of incredible talents no matter how these lowly garbage reporters tried to dig up her old lifes. She is truly a loss to Malaysia.
Her ad for the SPCA choked me to tears.....it is sad that this ad will never be seen on Malaysian tvs. This ad speaks for itself how she tried to deconstruct religious taboo on dogs.
Malaysia has lost yet another great talent. May her soul rest in peace...
Kepada marina ,walaupun saya benci terhadap seluruh ahli keluarga MM tetapi saya amat bersetuju dengan kata-kata anda. editor kosmo adalah lebih hina dan jijik dari najis anjing. kenapa selepas orang itu meninggal dunia baru editor kosmo berani .di mana keberanian kamu. jijik dan hina kamu sekeluarga.
i care less about her past, i care and love her more for her contribution to our malaysian nation. by the way, i do not know any right-minded person who is still reading utusan and kosmo, or are they toilet paper made in malaysia?
I boycotted Utusan for the last 10 years... Only read it at the library, online or somebody else's copy (most of the time is an UMNO supporter). Utusan Group publications are garbage from UMNO propaganda machine...
Even if Kosmo or Utusan wraps my nasi lemak now, I'd reject the nasi lemak!
Biarpun kita bercakap negatif pasal akhbar2 ni masalahnya inilah akhbar2 yang dibaca oleh golongan pendalaman & majoriti pembaca berbahasa Melayu di seluruh Malaysia! Jadi bagi editor @ wartawan akhbar2 ni telah mencurahkan isi tulisan tak bertanggung jawab mereka untuk dibaca oleh mereka. Kita mungkin boleh ambil tidak peduli kerana kita tahu mencari bahan bacaan lain. Thing is... this unresponsible writers simply promote the issues for WHAT?! Gilalah editor2 akhbar berbahasa Melayu sekarang ni lepaskan artikel ni camtu. Last time a friend complaint to me article yang dia tulis untuk akhbar Sinar Harian telah diterbitkan menggunakan nama wartawan lain, bukan nama dia sendiri (without pay lagi!). Editor akhbar tu lepaskan sendiri! Some more my friend lak amatur writer kena plagiat sesenang tu jer. Sekarang ni majoriti wartawan berbahasa Melayu dah pandai melahirkan Stephen Glass di kalangan kita. Takpun the bugger, Martin Bashir yang spoil late MJ sebab nak cepat naikkan nama dalam kewartawanan. This is damn! Readers doesn't know, tapi apa editor2 diorang buat?!!! Thanx God I'm in a good place only tell good things abt people's career. Apa org nak cakap pasal ACG (Animation, Comic & Game) pun lantak la, we do what's best for the industry. Daripada talk shit abt people, better we do something for this industry to grow rather than encourage people to change sex! I disgrace those who promote such history of arwah. I don't think arwah will like that!
Al Fatihah buat arwah Yasmin Ahmad... your good heart means more than what they said about your gender. Allah knows u more than us. Amin...
yeap we lost one of THE talended person in Malaysia and ape yg kite buat? bawak kuar semua cite ntah2ape2ntah. buat ape laa nk aibkan org kan...
Al-Fatihah to Yasmin
Is there no levels too low that her enemies will stoop to? This rumor has been going on for some time, it was spread by a bunch of people who were jealous or hateful of her career.
But is it any surprise the garbage rag Kosmo will do this to attract more buyers?
Marina Sweetheart,
This is the problem of a nation vying to correct others promulgating the 'holier than thou' attitude where it should be more sensitive towards its citizens' privacy, and instead correct its defects {Oh there're many areas we can touch on!}. Malaysia has to grow up - 50 years of Independence should have taught them something but obviously, as we can see {and experience}, it hasn't done much!!
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Leonardo Da Vinci, elvis, freddie mercury, sudirman, p. ramlee, michael jackson, etc. they all had 2 things in common;
1) they contributed so much to the world with their art
2) they all have a chapter in life that they rather not talk about
so why must we bring it up so thuderingly in the newspapers. It hasnt been a week in fact since she passed away. Let's not talk ill of the dead please.
Lets celebrate them for what they truly were. We love you Yasmin and thats what matters
P/s: I loved Tan Hong Ming ^_^
I was shocked and sadden by her sudden death. Such talents and heart is hard to come by now days. She will truly be missed.
to those who have no access to the "scumrag" paper that publishes the article mentioned here, you can read it from here.
There's even a pdf file of the article for better viewing.
Assalamualaikum..
Allahyarhamah was a great person. Her works will always remind us of what Malaysian should be.
I think the article in Kosmo was not to defame her. Instead, it maybe an opportunity to clear up things with the issues. But as I learned from you, her family seems to be upset on this.
Maybe, the editors should be more careful next time to came up with such report. People were confused and keep telling wrong stories about her. History is something you can't change. As a younger generations, we don't really know about the past and older people who knows only some of the stories keep telling the wrong ones. What make it worst is that it is circulated through the net without any effort to tell the truth.
If people were told about the real stories in a more appropriate way, I think that would never be a problem. Somehow, I think Kosmo had good intentions to bring up the story but it maybe too early for such revelations. I hope that for the next time, they will be more careful on such matter. Consultation with her family should be made first before publishing the "hidden truth" that eventually will lead to controversy.
We, as the younger generations, knew her as a good, talented, dedicated and brilliant women for her magnificent masterpiece. We watched the touching Petronas Raya ads every single year and we will still remember it. It doesn't matter who she was in the past, or what she did, she will still be Yasmin Ahmad. Knowing the truth from the history will never make us lost our respect for her.
Al Fatihah...
deark DSP MM
she already here no more. She was on her journey to the afterlife. For sure, it was not our business anymore.
but we dont have to be crappy on crap reports such this...
what they really need is a good solid advice with brain.. that what have they done is not right..
thank you
Greenbug, you know less but you talk much..
Utusan is not good.. but doesnt mean that you are better..
I am in agreement that Yasmin Admad is a truely Malaysian.
In the world where is full of dirty tricks and politically driven "hatred" amongst ethics in Malaysia, she is the one bring back the reality that we, all Malaysians are in fact the same and share many things in common. And that we should cherish our uniformity and celebrate the diversity.
I will ask my Malay friends to boycott Kosmo.
Yasmin, you shall be missed.
i suggest we burn Kosmo magazine in protest...
and boycott those stalls that sell Kosmo...and let the stalls know why too..
it's one thing to insult a person, it's another to spit at a person's grave...
this is too much...
Reading the Kosmo article only increased my admiration for a truly magnificent human being. We do her memory no favours by trying to shield ourselves from the complexity of who she was. I believe she once said, "It is the mud that makes the lotus." I am convinced that it was her experience of being a despised outsider that made her so warmly inclusive of 'the other'. God's angels - and Yasmin was surely one of them - grow their wings the hard way.
I dunno. Its kinda big. I for one am kinda glad to have confirmation after all the stories I've heard.
If it is true that she was a hermaphrodite? then, what is there to be ashamed of? Apa yg aib? People's prejudice cant be swept under the rug. You of all people should know that.
It was the big skeleton nobody dared talked about. The question is WHY IS THAT SO?
however, all in all... She was a great director and producer.. a better ad woman than film in my humble opinion.
Al Fatihah for her
My condolence to him and his family.
May he rest in peace.
His contribution to the country will be greatly missed.
Her mother missed a great son.
He started his media limelight after being crowned as Naib Juara Bintang RTM 1975 - as Zulkifli Abdullah.
Come on.. sex change is not a taboo. And it is not someting which have to be regarded as shameful.
Even if Tun Mahathir undergo a sex change operation, he has an ultimate right as an individual and must be respected.
By condemning Kosmo, you subliminally regard sex-change as a shameful act.
Stop that.
Make sex-change legal and norm, rather than exception.
Re Hanizar's comment; may I correct that, please: it was Zulkifli Ahmad. Saya mula kenal Yasmin as Zulkifli during those Bintang RTM days. Whether Yssmin khunsa atau sebaliknya bukan hak kita untuk mempersoal dan membincangkannya. Yasmin has gone to meet her Maker. Our time will come soon. Seharusnya kita sadaqah Al-fatihah untuk arwah Yasmin and not go into this silly polemic about her gender. May her soul be placed among the blessed. Amin.
Yasmin has nothing to be ashamed of. If it had been discussed when she was alive, she wouldve been able to explain her choices. Whether we like it or not, its up to you, but at least she's allowed a chance. But what KOSMO tried to do was too cheap for words. You name call her when she no longer can explain herself. Trying to stigmatize her, so that all the people who couldnt know any better will have a new image of her. Yasmin, as the trangender. Too low. And of course the narrow minded ones would think negatively because suddenly it becomes a religious thing whether to approve or not to approve. I wonder if people fear god so much, why do some stoop so low by taking cheap shots like that.
However, I hope that it will backfire and thanks to the article, people will love her even more. That will be the best revenge.
If a person is born a hermaphrodite ~ in Islam, you have the right to choose. Arwah Yasmin did nothing wrong...she chose to become a woman.
Leave her in peace.
Hanizar: "By condemning Kosmo, you subliminally regard sex-change as a shameful act."
Any civilised (with well upbringing) humanbeing would know where the limit is. When someone dies, we naturally stop digging his/her past -- unless 'the past' is something well-known to the wider public. If it is not, then we should just leave it where it should be.
Whether it is a shameful act or not -- that's not the question here. The real question is: WHY NOW? WHY NOT THEN?
Adakah Kosmo sengaja kemaruk mahu mengkomersialkan 'kematian' dan 'kesedihan' orang lain sebagai satu komoditi perniagaan? To cash in some easy money? Now, this is shameful!
Hanizar: "Make sex-change legal and norm, rather than exception."
Even if your point is valid -- you totally don't understand the REAL ISSUE here. Why now? After she is no longer here to share her side of the story: why Kosmo starts to dig everything? Why not then?
Sex-change is a VERY VERY VERY personal matter -- whether you're celebrity or not. And if someone wants to keep it that way (as a private thing) -- nobody in this universe has the right to make it public.
No one can change the facts. What we can change is the perception of the facts. She may rest in peace. The struggle must never be laid to rest.
Dear Datuk,
I was in tears reading the article by Kosmo yesterday. It was during my daily routine of browsing through news from many newspapers and my heart dropped when reading the article. Immediately, I wrote a formal email to the reporter and the editor for writing and publishing such news. To date, obviously, for being a 'Bacul', there is no reply from them.
I was introduced to Yasmin Ahmad once and the memory of her gentle smiles and strong words will linger in my mind till the day I die.
Thank you Datuk and you will have my support 101%.
Kosmo should have just left things as it is and let her soul rest in peace. shame on u!! KOSMO
Azrin said...
Kosmo and Utusan are only suitable to be used as cat litter.
I can't agree more! In fact, i am doing that everyday!
I would never contribute to their revenue by reading any of their nonsense. I don't even think that those 'rags' are fit to line my kitty litter !
Pemancing,
Yasmin Ahmad is not a transexual, instead she is a khunsa i.e. a person who is born with 2 genders and has both male and female genitals. Under Islamic law, a khunsa must choose his/her gender according to which side (male or female) the person really belong based on the feelings, physical appearance etc. I'm not really an expert on this.
Somebody told me that Yasmin was initially chosen to be male by her parents. But at the later stage in life, it is seen that her characteristics leans more towards being a female and thus she applied to change her gender to be female. After receiving approval from Islamic authorities, she is legally (from civil and Islamic laws) a female now.
Pemancing,
Yasmin Ahmad is not a transexual, instead she is a khunsa i.e. a person who is born with 2 genders and has both male and female genitals. Under Islamic law, a khunsa must choose his/her gender according to which side (male or female) the person really belong based on the feelings, physical appearance etc. I'm not really an expert on this.
Somebody told me that Yasmin was initially chosen to be male by her parents. But at the later stage in life, it is seen that her characteristics leans more towards being a female and thus she applied to change her gender to be female. After receiving approval from Islamic authorities, she is legally (from civil and Islamic laws) a female now.
Assalamualikum,
Al-Fatihah buat allahyarham Yasmin Ahmad.
Semasa hidupnya dia dijulang sebagai antara pengarah yg di segani, namun setelah pemergiannya timbul pula cerita yg kurang enak tentang dirinya.
Kenapa harus diperbesarkan cerita yg boleh mengaibkan seseorang yg telah pergi. Jika cerita itu benar sekali pun, tidak kah ada perasaan simpati yang tinggal pada warga KOSMO buat keluarga, rakan serta yang mengenali arwah.
sudah menjadi lumrah manusia - yg baik di diamkan yg buruk di sensasikan..
p/s- KOSMO pls think before you act. Kalaulah yasmin ahmad itu adik atau ibu atau yg ada talian darah dengan editor kosmo, agak agak nya berita itu akan dicetak di dada akhbar atau pun tidak.
the lack of compassion leads to all these..no one has the right to judge another persons' choices in life..i was actually in the midst of writing songs for the soundtrack to her upcoming movie "thaddeus" and am saddened by her death..i missed the chance to work with someone whom i truly respect..both as an artist and a human being..why cant they let her rest in peace..and respect her family who are going thru a difficult and heartbreaking period..this is the very thing that is wrong with this country..the lack of compassion and humanity..the need to judge others in order to make themselves seem righteous and holy..i will remember her by the legacy she left..and the sincerity and boldness in her works..may she rest in peace..
I don't read Kosmo and cry fowl if I find my children reading that newspaper. With this kind of stupid news, I am not about to start reading it..
Just goes to show how heartless and brainless the people behind it are
Hi MM........i never like politic,just continue to live our life with purpose and that will be enough...like what Yasmin did... everything shall come to pass.... saya BINGUNG la terlalu banyak omong kosong......anyway tell them that is human nature........why why....God bless Malaysia
This is exactly the same thing that happened to Micheal Jackson after he passed away... Arent we suppose to show our respect towards the dead?
I was terribly shocked when I saw the headline yesterday and straight away dismiss the idea of reading that paper.. Is it too difficult to put one own self in the family's shoes before publishing such article? Am I being too bad when deep down in my heart I said this to the family members of kosmo or rather the editor and whoever involved in publishing that article "kalau kena macam tu to your family member - u deserved it"? I dont think so and am not gonna take back what i have said yesterday...
Am very pissed off with KOSMO and am not gonna read that stupid paper anymore...
I was fascinated by Yasmin's work when we made beautiful petronas ads for all religious festivals year in year out, often touched with tears. To me, her ads reflect what we are everyday in Malaysia, depicting Malaysian life, values, wisdom, family virtues, the list goes on. It made me proud to be Malaysian and proud of my fellow Malaysians doesnt matter whats their race or religion. And i bought all her movies except Muallaf and Talentime yet. And for malay movies about malays, i never get bored seeing them again and again. Even more so now, because I am working overseas and her movies is my reality check on Malaysia and how lucky I am to be a Malaysian. Al- Fatihah Yasmin, even though I felt you have a lot more to do here but nobody can deny GOD's love for HIS servant. Zafrin
hatta mereka menyumbang kepada jasa bangsa negara, itu bukanlah alasan untuk kita melupakan perkara yang x betul yang dilakukan oleh mereka lebih2 lagi melibatkan soal agama...klu nk berjasa kepada negara, kita kena pastikan dulu yg kita berada di landasan yang betul...
Dear PEMANCING & HANIZAR,
Both of you had made a wrong statement. WRONG. Hope if time permitted, you have the opportunity to ask forgiveness from Arwah Yasmin Ahmad?
I'm not a good person to say about Islamic rules & regulations but the fact is, Islam is allowing any Muslim (incl Yasmin) to make a decision on their status (subject to conditions). Either to be a man or woman. Her family had consulted religious people (can ask religious dept!) on this. But do you think that they will tell the entire world about the whole process? Please learn and understand about hermaphrodite in ISLAM. Nobody ask for it! Yasmin is unique, 1 in a million. Allah has chosen her.
Alfateha for Yasmin & Muslimin/Muslimat
Oh God, What Kosmo doing?
Respect Yasmin, even if she is not dead.. Respect a human been in live whether he/she is alive or passed away is the basis "ajaran" of all religious.. Kosmo do not know that? what a shame...
Yasmin, your pure heart is put to a rest.. Forget and forgive Kosmo and Utusan.. you are in peace..
Respect you, kak Min.
boycott kosmo... i support and i will influence others ... Yasmin Ahmad was my idol ... noone could replace her ... super talented and a true Msian, She should be awarded a title ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyE7DTUdO74
X dinafikan, Yasmin Ahmad telah memberi ilham kpd kami utk merakam satu MV yg melambangkan 1Malaysia.
shingga hari ini, masih tiada lagu atau MV yang dpt memberi suasana 1Malaysia seperti MV kuala Kangsar nie.
sayang lagu nie xdpt disiarkan dlm media Malaysia disebabkan bukan dato siti yang nyanyi.
Mereka hanya terdiri daripada penduduk biase di Kampong Kuala Kangsar...
Al Fatihah to Yasmin Ahmad. May God bless her soul and may she rest in peace. Amin
Astaghfirullahalazim....she was born khunsa (not man). Even in Al Quran it is stated some are born with it.
People should really check their fact and stop humiliating arwah and her family.
Anybody please help me quote any hadith/ayat that state about golongan ni. Mereka masih makhluk Allah dan from one of the blog of her Sepet crew, she always have telekung and prayer mat with her everywhere she goes and she will always excuse herself to pray.
p/s: kite yang sempurna sifat ni sempurna ke solat? Allah knows best!!
Al-fatihah to Arwah Yasmin and my condolences to her family. Malaysia lost a great talent.
hanizar: if it's not a taboo, then why are you still referring to her as 'him'? are you daft? her IC has already been switched.
nobody said it was a taboo. if you know the meaning of 'critical thinking' and how to disseminate the news properly, as well as looking out for media bias, you would know what we're talking about. but then again, this is your opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs.
As for those who are still looking for the article, here it is, it's in a link within this blog post:
http://asylum60.blogspot.com/2009/07/wtf-is-up-with-kosmo.html
kak marina.. are you referring to this?? http://www.kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2009&dt=0727&pub=Kosmo&sec=Rencana_Utama&pg=ru_01.htm
I never took the opportunity to read the tabloids of Malaysia that even as tabloids, they are a sorry read!!!
But to defame a person whom has touched our heart n soul, who fought to bring the true ONE MALAYSIA is truly gutter journalism at it's lowest...
Here's what one learned person thinks about her:
http://mahaguru58.blogspot.com/2009/07/qullu-nafsin-iza-iqatul-maut-all-that.html
Zerd,
With all due respect, you are mixing up gender and sex. Kak Min has one of the over 200 recorded intersexed conditions. She has two sexes, not two genders. But it seems she has lived both genders.
In essense, because sexual intersexed conditions are the only ones recognized in Malaysia, leaving aside those inflicting the chromosoms and brains, the latter is often scorned and misunderstood.
Transsexualism is a medical condition that stems from intense distress resulting from the gender of a person not matching with the person's sex. So we do not know whether Kak Min has that, or what her motivations are to take the choice herself, so it is unfair to assume there. But in all terms, Kak Min is indeed a trangender.
What KOSMO is doing is also confusing. The article does seem docile to me, but I am concerned as to how her transgender past will play out. Is it to sensitize transgender issues? Is it to make transgenders look bad and equate her with the community? Is it only to share her life story alone? We do not know for sure, and I am not sure of what is going to happen for the next few days after this.
But what is certain, is that Kak Min is gone. And she will never come back. I do feel we should not react to KOSMO; if we do react we are only validating the stance that there is something wrong with transgenders, therefore there is something wrong with her that we could not accept. Let us remember that all of us would have our own differences from each other. If there is one thing we all learnt from her, is we that should build bridges on top of it, not alienate anyone, to love God and humankind.
I support sex change even for a non-hermaphrodite. It is a basic human's right - the right to choose.
The right to choose is also an essence of a democratic country. Similarly, the right to be recognised by the choice one has made must be accorded without bias.
So, it is not wrong for a newspaper to say that, "he had made a choice, and after that, he's a she".
What is there to be ashamed of ? Why there must be censorship ? It is not wrong to change sex.
For instance, if Mokhtar Dahari died because of Muscular Dystrophy, it is not wrong to mention that he died because of MD.
Same case here. It is not wrong to change sex in his/her case. So, why must you guys want to censor tat part of his/her history ?
Isn't it not too hard to comprehend ?
In the end, if Yasmin was still alive, I am not sure if she would be affected by this. The fact is, she was happy for who she was. Whatever gender or past she has had, she lived each step, bravely and not at all under the threat of ever being exposed. She would call a spade and a spade.
The timing of such an article is incredibly tasteless. Only those with insatiable taste for drama and dirt would publish such a write up the day after the burial. For God's love, why?
In the end, we are all creatures of God. There is no need to darken any kind of imperfection, one way or another.
God bless Yasmin's soul. Whether she was a man or a woman, she was brave, honest and beautiful. An example to mankind.
Nina
For a country like Malaysia, it's sad to see that some Malaysians still possess such degrading mentality. True, a spade should be called a spade, but why the hype over the hermaphrodite issue?
Such people wrap issues of taboo and hypocrisy so tightly around their little pinkie fingers and exploit the dead only when the person is dead and gone. How low could one possibly be??
For once, please respect the dead and appreciate her for being the great storyteller who inspired us all.
Kosmo!, a little sensitivity in the time of mourning would be greatly appreciated in the future.
Yasmin is my heroine.
She has always given me hope, inspiration and happiness through her work.
Am trying to think how she would react to all these circus. She'd probably just shrug them off and waste no time to do more meaningful, beautiful and thought provoking work that would bring out the best in human beings.
I think I shall start to do that. Be more modest, smile more, give more cheers to others, bring hope especially to my own children and love more deeply. Will stop calling my other friends (no matter what race), friends but to call them my sisters and brothers. Just like Yasmin.
Will start to read more and watch more comedies, just like Yasmin.
Thank you to all who have shared their thoughts here. Have learnt alot.
My heart aches to know that I will never ever see her wonderful, magical work of art again.
Rest in peace, Yasmin.
The Kosmo! Editor was at her funeral. Apparently. What a shame. Everyone went there to show love and he was just another heartless spectator in it for the fame.
Dear commentators, please drop the subject. Lets be reminded, Jangan kita buat kerja Tuhan, menjatuhkan hukum sesuka hati kita.
I sent an open letter to the email address available on Kosmo's website and I will post it up on my webpage:-
http://thecosmicabyss.wordpress.com/blog
Since I sent it at 11pm last night, till 7.08pm today, it has not been replied.
Its saddening. Cheap publicity.
IN MEMORY OF YASMIN AHMAD
Dear Yasmin
Some humans are inhuman. That’s why God took you home to keep you safe.
You are GOD’s GIFT to humanity. You’ve done so much through your storytelling and film-making to inspire social conscience.
I don’t care what the others say about you. They seem so eager and so impatient to speak on your behalf. If I were them, I'd ask myself, “Am I qualified to tell Yasmin Ahmad’s story?” I’d also search my conscience, “Why do I want to tell her story? Is it to enrich humanity? Or, is it to enrich my pocket?”
Dear Yasmin, nobody can obliterate your legacy. Because your influence is invincible!
I'll treasure all your Chinese New Year ads and remember your message of love, hope & forgiveness.
Al-Faithan kepada Allahyarham Yasmin Ahmad, pengarah filem terkenal yang kembali ke rahmatullah malam tadi dan dikebumikan d Tanah Perkuburan Islam SS 20 Petaling Jaya, tengah hari tadi. Ramai yang terasa kehilangan beliau dan ada yang masih terperanjat kerana sebelum itu, Allahyarham sihat dan sedang memberi syarahan di Seri Pentas - TV3.
Dalam pada ramai yang meratapi pemergian Allahyarham, tidak kurang pula yang bercerita mengenai kisah hidup Allahyarham, terutama dalam laman web dan blog, di kedai kopi atau restoran. Cerita paling popular ialah sama ada Yasmin Ahmad itu lelaki atau perempuan, matinya, dan urusan jenazahnya hingga ke liang lahat bagaimana? Ada blog dan laman web yang menyiarkan gambar muda Yasmin itu ketika tahun 70-an yang dikenali sebagai Zulkifli Ahmad, bekas peserta akhir Bintang RTM.
Lebai tidak mahu menentukan siapakah Yasmin dan siapa pula Zulkifli. Lelakikah Yasmin Ahmad atau wanitakan Zulkifli Ahmad, atau KHUNSA kah mereka. Bagi mengelakkan orang ramai, terutama anak muda yang banyak melayari laman web dan blog, berbual kosong mempertikaikan lelakikah Yasmin Ahmad atau wanitakan Zulkifli Ahmad, atau khunsakah mereka, Lebai ingin beri sedikit penjelasan daripada penyelidikan yang dibuat. Layari laman blog lebai di http://paklebai.blogspot.com
First of all .. KOSMO's coverage terribly in bad taste but the story abt Yasmin is an open secret. And the truth hurts.
However I believes that Yasmin is special and we will missed her works. Even KOSMO!
Adakah khunsa itu satu keaiban? memalukan? (degrading and shameful?)
Jika ya, pada mata siapa? anda anda yang mengata ya atau mereka yang mengata tidak?
I was one of those whom you can say, left Malaysia in a hurry. Sick and tired of discrimination and ludicrous politics, Yasmin showed me what it meant to be a Malaysian--to want to be a Malaysian. Though her focus was mainly on the young, she reminded us that we once had their ideals and innocence too. We had merely forgotten and we can forgive.
Yasmin's wisdom came from a journey that not many would have had the courage to last. We are perhaps thankful for her road-less-travelled. Her messages cut across societies and nations. How it lived with aching honesty in "Beautifully Imperfect" (her interview http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=111948216320&comments)
Let Yasmin's demise be a celebration of her life, a celebration of what we had in common--being Malaysians. I, for one, am humbled and inspired. RIP.
Hi Marina,
I don't always agree with you but for this post I am 100% with you.
I have never read Kosmo because the layout looks so bad and the headline always sounds dumb, but my friend told me about the article and we symphatize with Yasmin's family. They have to bear the pain of losing the love one and the media doesn't make it easier for them.
It was naive for anyone to say they just spread the information about Yasmin, that kind of article was meant to provoke mass curiosity and sell their garbage n/papers.
People are quick to judge. Did they know it is permissible in Islam to change gender if the person is khunsa? Did they ever thought she might be one? If she's not I believe that is between her and god, don't you think?
Yasmin is truly inspiring as the ambassador of Malaysian culture on international stage. I do not agree in some of her views in Gubra but the rest of her movies really entertaining and educate us at the same time. It shows that love could unite us all.
She really, single handed-ly revolutionized the film industry and TV commercials in Malaysia. Those who criticize her for the life she chose, what have you done for your country lately? Whining? Is that making you better than her? Have heart and pray for her journey in another world. That's what fellow muslims should their muslim brotehrs/sisters passed away.
Kita perlu sedar apabila seseorang itu meninggal dunia, beberapa perkara dituntut oleh Islam terhadap seisi keluarga, sanak-saudara, rakan-taulan dan sekelian peminat yang masih hidup. Ia adalah jenazah perlu dimandi dan dikapankan, disembahyangkan dan akhir sekali dikebumikan.
Islam pula telah menetapkan cara dan bagaimana ketiga-tiga tuntutan itu perlu dilaksanakan. Kalau jenazah seorang lelaki tentunya tuntutan dimandi dan dikapankan, disembahyangkan dan dikebumikan berbeza dengan jenazah seorang perempuan/wanita.
Misalnya, kalau jenazah itu seorang lelaki, hanya waris atau orang lelaki boleh memandikan dan mengkapankan jenazah. Begitu juga kedudukan imam dan niat mengerjakan solat jenazah berbeza antara jenazah lelaki dan wanita.
Fardu kifayah itu adalah tuntutan kepada semua yang hidup terhadap mana-mana orang Islam yang meninggal dunia.
Bayangkan balasan yang akan kita terima dan roh si mati jika tuntutan-tuntutan ini tidak dilaksanakan atau salah dilaksanakan.
Setiap kebaikan dan kelemahan seseorang itu di bumi ini akan dibalas setimpal dan seadilnya oleh Allah di hari akhirat nanti kerana itu janji-Nya.
Namun sebelum seseorang itu memasuki alam barzakh, apakah kita telah menyediakan hamba Allah itu sebaik-baiknya dan sesempurananya.
Apakah aib di dunia lebih utama daripada aib di akhirat nanti?? Cuba fikirkan.
Hanizar,
The issue is, when someone dies, stories like this shouldn't be raised reason being, it will lead to bad talks, false assumptions, speculations and bad-mouthing for no apparent reason by strangers, and that, does not put the soul at ease and its not also fair since the person is not alive to clarify the situation.
Its not about going against human rights, but its about being in this culture, where "mengutuk" someone you don't know, has become a tea break past time and IT IS NOT FAIR for arwah, REGARDLESS whether it being a true thing or not.
The editor has done something, without foreseeing the consequences. He might want to celebrate the person he taught Yasmin was, without knowing that OUR CULTURE loves making speculations, false assumptions and whatnot.
I hope you understand why we are outraged.
One of the most repeated question is "why now ?"
Kosmo never question about Yasmin's sexuality when Yasmin is alive. What for ? And again after Yasmin passed away, never did Kosmo question it. They had better news to cover. Things like 2,400 vs 24,000,000 and such receive better attention.
What Kosmo did, was just to outline Yasmin's life, chronologically. And they did just that.
Just like if Marina or Azalina died, is it fair to EXCLUDE the FACT that Marina or Azalina studied in TKC and played nettball once, just because (contoh sahaja) Marina/Azalina had a sex-change operation later in life ?
Is it fair to their friends, teachers and batchmates ? No !! You should not censor that from being mentioned.
Similarly, it is nothing wrong when Kosmo reported that Yasmin (as Zulkifli) represented Melaka in football, or (also as Zulkifli) won the trophy of naib Juara Bintang RTM 1975. Nothing to be ashamed of rite ?
Stop being hypocrite. You guys accused others of harboring ill-feelings toward transgenders, whereas in actuality, it is you yourself who are full of misconception and distasteful view about them.
Aduan: "Takdir Yasmin" di KOSMO, 27 Julai 2009 (salinan)
from Ajami Hashim
to berita@kosmo.com.my
date Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:20 PM
subject Aduan: "Takdir Yasmin" di KOSMO, 27 Julai 2009
mailed-by gmail.com
Salaam & Selamat Sejahtera..
Saya, Ajami Hashim adalah salah seorang sahabat kepada arwah Yasmin Ahmad. Dan saya juga adalah seorang bapa kepada 2 orang anak lelaki berumur 7 dan 4 tahun yang pernah saya ketemukan dengan arwah dimana saya memperkenalkannya sebagai Aunty Yasmin. Kelmarin saya beritahu kepada mereka bahawa Aunty Yasmin sudah meninggal dunia. Dan rasanya mereka faham apa yang saya maksudkan kerana Abang, anak saya yang sulung pernah menyaksikan atuk mereka (bapa mertua saya) meninggal dunia dahulu. Cuma Adik, yang kecil mungkin agak keliru. Tapi kedua-duanya tahu bahawa saya bersedih dengan kematian Aunty Yasmin. Abang sudah bersekolah Darjah 1, maka sudah tentu dia faham makna sebuah persahabatan yang dipelajarinya di sekolah. Dan sudah tentu Abang pandai membaca. Manakala Adik pinjamkan dirinya untuk saya peluk ketika saya amat kesedihan dengan pemergian Aunty Yasmin.
Sudah tentu anda semua yang lebih dewasa dari Abang dan Adik lebih faham erti persahabatan dan makna kehilangan orang yang kalian sayangi. Kerana itulah saya amat terkilan dengan berita bercetak yang disiarkan sebagai tajuk utama akhbar KOSMO bertarikh 27 Julai 2009 semalam (muka 1 dan 2). Maaf, kerana Abang tidak membacanya. Adik pula memang belum pandai mengeja. Tapi saya pasti suatu hari nanti sudah tentu mereka akan membaca artikel itu juga. Sebenarnya saya tidak dapat bayangkan reaksi mereka nanti apabila mengetahui 'siapakah' Aunty Yasmin yang anda MAHU beritahu itu? Namun jangan risau, buat sementara waktu ini saya hanya akan beritahu mereka bahawa Aunty Yasmin merupakan "salah seorang sahabat papa yang paling papa sayangi sampai bila-bila pun". Mereka tidak perlu tahu apa-apa selain daripada kisah kasih-sayang Aunty Yasmin dan kenangan mereka dalam pelukannya dahulu semasa bertemu.
Sekian. Terima kasih.
Yang benar,
Ajami Hashim
ajamihashim@gmail.com
p/s: terimakasih marina
I am rather astonished to find myself accused of trying to censor Kosmo for stating a fact that apparently I disapprove of. Astonished because I am more often accused of being supportive of all sorts of 'immoralities' which are 'sure to bring society down'.
The question here is about a person's right to privacy which doesn't end upon their passing. Yes, there are many facts about people's lives but not all need to be stated upon their death especially if they chose not to reveal them when they were still alive.
There are many people for instance who have passed on due to AIDS-related illnesses. Is it absolutely necessary to state this in their obituaries just because it is a fact? Have we no consideration and compassion for their loved ones left behind who have to continue living in an environment where these facts are highly stigmatised?
It would be great to live in a society which is open to difference and diversity. Unfortunately we don't. It is NOT a situation we have to accept and certainly we should do our utmost to eradicate stigma and prejudice. I have no problems with any aspect of Yasmin's life but like many others question Kosmo's intention in publishing something private so soon after her death. What exactly does this add to their readers' lives?
I also believe that when God first gave life to the human being called Yasmin Ahmad, He already decided what twists and turns her life would take. It is therefore not for us mere humans to make any judgments about her because that would certainly amount to questioning God's judgment as well.All He asked of her was to submit to Him and by all accounts, she certainly did. That should be good enough for us.
Kosmo is as disgusting as every other publication that comes out of the Utusan Group.
They have the license and they have the sanction to print anything. They have been inciting racist attitudes and promoting the hate of another just because he or she is of a different race.
This rubbish falls within the same mentality that approves of the likes of Al Islam whose two reporters violated the most sacred of sacraments of the Christian Communion, which strangely enough, only Khairy, the UMNO Youth Chief, from amongst their usual target audience, has condemned.
I first read about the Kosmo article in Rocky's Bru where he was "advancing" the cause of some journalists, past and present, who were writing a letter of complaint to the chief in Utusan. In my post there I was critical of the journalists because these same journalists have until now, with their silence consented to and supported all the rubbish that the Utusan Group has seen fit to publish. Any protestations from such a group sullies the scorn that this Kosmo narrative deserves.
Just to put on record. In all my live I have seen only two Malay movies in a cinema. Sepet and Gubra!! And I enjoyed both movies. Made my non-Malay speaking kids to watch Sepet as well and they too liked it.
Marina,
I just read your last comment 6.04am. I wouldn't even try to explain myself if I were you to this crowd who don't know, and never will, what political correctness, etiquette, appropriateness and just plain decency is all about!!
As a friend who attended her funeral, I would like to share that when the announcement at the masjid was made before start of solat jenazah, it was as such-
"..almarhumah muslimah kita, Yasmin Ahmad.."
and when the 'talkin' was read after her burial, the ustaz started it with -
"Wahai Yasmin BINTI Inom".
Thank you and salam.
Dear Puan Marina
You hit the nail on the head when you wrote this:
There are many people for instance who have passed on due to AIDS-related illnesses. Is it absolutely necessary to state this in their obituaries just because it is a fact? Have we no consideration and compassion for their loved ones left behind who have to continue living in an environment where these facts are highly stigmatised?
To eradicate stigma and prejudice, we should start it with our ownself first. One finger accusing others of being prejudice, three fingers pointing back to us. The thumb will hold the middle finger in place.
Ni nak sebut pun malu.. Psychologically, the refusal to mention just shows that the mind is full of stigma/prejudice/trauma.
When you're not at peace with it, you tend to stigmatize. You cannot even mention it, let alone publish, or letting others to publish.
Then why question the right of Kosmo to publish that story ? And again.. what story ? He played footbal. He won Bintang RTM ? Normal things. No need to have any stigma/prejudice. How pathetic..
I like to watch her ads. May her soul rest in peace
To me, Marina, anyone who gets angry over Kosmo's actions over the revelations misses the point.
The issue isn't whether Kosmo was lying or not. That's irrelevant, and typical of Kosmo anyway.
The question is: as a society, why is a revelation like this 'sullying' the reputation of the person behind this revelation?
This is a time where the public needs to ask hard questions about itself. Hard, ugly questions. Like:
Does this revelation make Yasmin "less of a person" to you?
Does what Yasmin "is" matter more to you than what she did?
Are you less appreciative to diversity than you thought?
What is wrong with you?
I would have to agree with hanizar..
Lets face the facts,
1) People in the limelight lose their privacy. It is as easy as that. Once people know you, they'll want to know more of you. You can be successful and famous and expect people not to be curious about you. Of course they want to know more.
2) You decide what is wrong. Most of you believe that being a khunsa is a shameful thing in this current society and hence it is. I believe pregnancy is a wonderful thing and should be celebrated even whent he mother to be isn't married but apparent not everybody feels so. I made this mistake once.
3) Why after death? Probably people dont puclish biographies and celebrate history until they are dead.
4) We are all curios. Honestly, I didnt know she was a Khunsa. I knew she was a man before, I always thought she was a transexual. Both are fine for me but that was the fact that I would have passed on as truth if anybody asked me about Yasmin Ahmad in the future.
so lets recap. We are angry because Kosmo! published true information of Yasmin Ahmad's identity as a man because she died and cannot answer in response. We are angry because some things are better left unsaid.
But can we celebrate her life without knowing her life? A man's worth is not only while in success, the year preceeding success brings comprehension.
OH COME ON!! GET REAL! If anybody died, we would want to know everything that they were. Marina has her points but not in regards to Yasmin Ahmad because a large large part of her life was a man. In all probability, what made her a great visionary is exactly the tribulations as a man. It was rather weird when her tribute on TV didnt include any pictures and mentions of her childhood.
Well Marina,
What do you think about the following extract from the following blog: http://mahaguru58.blogspot.com/
"She tried to break age old taboos by incorporating liberalism in her movies such as Gubra, Sepet, Mukhsin, Mualaf and Talentime.
Sure, she has her legions of fans and admirers who love what she had done for 'liberating' the Malaysian movie industry from touching on things which were taboo and bordering on Islamic issues, but I for one don't give two hoots about such achievements for they invite to the forbidden and blur the clear divide between the al-makruf and the maksiat!
Those who have a fair idea of what I objected about her would know exactly what I meant?
Those who were and are in cahoots with her frame of mind can just wait for their own comeuppance soon.
'Thou shall reapeth what thou soweth!' so says the parable of us who will answer for our deeds both here in the Yaum al Duniyya as well as in the Yaum al Akhirat!
Whatever differences I had with her work dies with her. May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala give her her dues."
Tulisan saya yang asal adalah direct. Adakah situasi Yasmin itu satu perkara yang mengaibkan atau memalukan.
Jawapan yang saya dapati ialah ramai disini dan diluar sana yang memandang sinis dan serong serta marah atas penulisan Kosmo berpandagan "YA, IANYA MENGAIBKAN atau MEMALUKAN".
SAYA sebenarnya HAIRAN majoriti berpandangan begitu!Saya tidak!
Seperti kata T-Boy, "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?"
Perhaps "HE" was what SHE is , that made her see what we failed to see in LIFE.
May her soul be blessed forever.
Over the last few years the Islamic religious authorities have expressed serious concern over the increasing number of transvestites and Muslims undergoing sex-change operations.
Both are considered haram in Islam.
However, Islam rules that if the transvestite or Mak Nyah (the preferred local term rather than the derogatory pondan) is a khunsa (hermaphrodite), he is accepted by the religion.
Salam to Marina and family,
I’m still shocked over death of superb creative director Yasmin.
Al- Fatihah to her. I send my condolences to her whole family via this comment box.
I agree with your points concerning what KOSMO has done, not only to her, but her family as well. And, the mad sad is it happened one day after her funeral.
The simplest thing in Islam is (penerangan melalui contoh termudah):
Sekiranya seorang yang bernama Aminah tidak suka/tidak senang/tidak mahu dipanggil Minah oleh sesiapa saja, makanya sesiapa saja tersebut harus menghormati permintaan Aminah, sebelum dan selepas Aminah meninggal dunia.
Dan, sekiranya ada di kalangan sesiapa ini tidak mahu/sengaja memilih tidak mahu menghormati permintaan Aminah terhadap nama panggilan tersebut, makanya Aminah boleh secara langsung tidak meredhai panggilan itu serta pemanggil tersebut.
You know, regarding nama panggilan yang tak redha oleh pemilik badan(the simplest case), it has happened to me due to I got a very long name. Some did respect my request before/after I explained about this redha issue. Another some simply performed like what KOSMO has done to Yasmin. Most of ‘another some’ is my Malay friends.
I’ve been in Scotland for more than one year now. One of the best cultures here is most of my Scottish colleagues asked me, ‘What shall I call you? You must give me a name, in which makes you happy for me to call you. I shouldn’t call the name that you don’t like or disagree.’
I am addressing the simplest case above in order to let others know that don’t play around with the redha part. For those Muslims, I think, you do know better about it, don’t you?
Did Yasmin really happy/permit anyone to reveal/question her personal stories when she was alive? No, I don’t think so. It was easy to understand her body language when she was alive. From that, one can easily notice if she redha or not upon whatever news related to her personal stories before/after her death.
Nevertheless, if KOSMO thinks what has done is true, then, I pray to God. May Allah SWT give more love to them owing to it seems to me that they lack of love and respect each other.
Salam again from bumi Scotland.
And for the Kosmo fanboys,
Yeah, you're right that they are stating facts. But it is based on the writer's extremely screwed perspective. Rather than focusing on the contributions and impacts done by her, such despicable critter who doesn't deserve any respect has tried to magnify one's past, a past which is subjected to criticisms of many conservative religious fanatics, in justifying their idiotic, moronic and senseless accusations that her art pieces "menjatuhkan aqidah". They have failed to mock her works, and hence trying to grasp this opportunities in belittling her.
Fools, go and screen through different blogs across the web and see how the religious zealots are trying to use this to attack the deceased and her great art works.
Ask yourself, with full conscience, WILL UTUSAN and BERITA HARIAN give credits to her contributions in our national unity?
And again, to the fanboy,
I am not sure here, but from what I have seen Kosmo did not clarify about the hermaphrodite issue which results in confusions caused by the articles.
You justify kosmo's act, but I say that they have failed terribly to present the facts by missing some important information which may lead to misconceptions!
freedom of press is now becoming freedom of loud mouth. When it hits the journalists, evertyhing else does not matter even the ethics and the morals.
Talk about fairness and equality in journalism and now become fairness and equality of journalist.
Marina, the article was about Yasmin's earlier life as a man - and a rather athletic and talented one.
Why is that so terribly insensitive? I understand that this should not be the time to talk about things like that, but - it's not disparaging - unless if you think being a transexual means you are a lesser human being.
I see it as a tribute to her, about her life and who she is/was. It is biographical. If the story were to be published a year after her death, would people react similarly?
I think right now, we are just too emotional, and it is just so convenient to automatically bash things like Kosmo, the mainstream media, or other parties. What if the New York Times or The Guardian were to report about Yasmin's past as a man?
The mothers of some of my friends know Yasmin directly and indirectly, and it is indeed a fact that is widely known but hardly talked about. It isn't something to feel angry about. She is a fabulous woman now, and she was a fabulous footballer boy in her youth. May you rest in peace Yasmin.
Those who used to read Yasmin's blog may remember in her comment section some jerk had raised this issue of her being a man - her answer to the commentator was simply "stop sniffing around my vagina"!! At least thats my recollection of it now..the exact words may be different but that was the way she dismissed it back then and thats what I think she must be thinking even now!!
Shall we strategize out a road map that will lead to the FINAL DEMISE of Kosmo & Utusan?
As for Yasmin, she was one of Malaysia's 21st century gems!
This comment was send to Wong Chun Wai:
Based on what you’ve written, we all should also send the same protest letter or the petition to mStar and The Star since you guys also acknowledge that she was a man.
Check this out:
http://mstar.com.my/hiburan/cerita.asp?file=/2009/7/26/mstar_hiburan/20090726011625&sec=mstar_hiburan
In the said article it is stated clearly that she was the “1975 Naib Johan, Bintang RTM '75”. If you do some checking, the “1975 Naib Johan, Bintang RTM '75” was Zulkifli Ahmad. So Yasmin Ahmad is Zulkifli Ahmad. The article was published on the 26 July, 2009 - much earlier that Kosmo!
Even though it is a Bernama article (should we also now send the letter to Bernama and boycott the news agency), you guys published it with all eyes opened.
I guess the associations representing the advertising agencies and advertisers should also act against mStar and The Star.
So, what say you?? If this comment is not published, I guess I know why.
Hari ini menjadi satu hari yang menyedihkan bagi Malaysia apabila Kodsmo "terpaksa" memohon maah diatas laporan mereka keatas Allahyaharmah Yasmin tempoh hari. Sedih kerana diatas pandangan "serong dan kolot", dilahirkan sebagai khunsa, merupakan satu keaiban dan memalukan.
Mulai hari ini, semua mereka yang ada di Malaysia yang status mereka khunsa akan ,merasakan diri mereka "hina" dimata semua!
Zubin MohamadSend your complaints on that insensitive piece of innuendo laden news piece that cowardly didn't have a byline to berita@kosmo.com.my
Call then at 03 92214001 (ext 508 & 506) and DEMAND to speak to the editor. Fax them your complains to 03 92218590
If you're a khunsa, you can't even be mentioned.
Thats how Marina and the gang see it.
first you said, "kosmo make their readers even MORE stupid". meaning you imply they are already stupid to begin with.
then you asked those stupid person (because they read kosmo) " to call for a boycott of them".
funny.
p.s. my comment has absolutely nothing to do with late Yasmin Ahmad. it is purely to show the contradiction.
knowing people like you, this comment will most likely be deleted. prove me right?
Malang sungguh orang Islam, moraliti dan tatacara hidupnya ditentukan oleh orang lain.
Bergembiralah orang Islam, anda kini yang dilahirkan sebagai seorang lelaki, mulai hari ini boleh mati sebagai seorang wanita.
Terima kasih Marina Mahathir, Rose Ismail, Fatimah Abu Bakar dan Shareem Amry. Hidup 1Malaysia.
Semoga Allah balas segala kebaikan kamu semua dengan setimpal-timpalnya.
Sokong MM.
Kesimpulan yang aku dapat ialah :
Jadi khunsa ni memang memalukan dan mengaibkan. So jgn beritahu org lain jika anda dilahirkan sebagai golongan ini kerana anda akan dipandang hina oleh masyarakat walaupun anda berjasa kepada negara.
John 8:7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
salam,
jika seseorang itu dilahirkan khunsa maka rujuk kepada tulung rusuk kiri.. jika kurang satu dari tulang rusuk kanan jadilah ia lelaki dan jika sama banyak dengan tulang rusuk kanan maka jadilah ianya perempuan...
Hanizar was right - it's the stigma that comes with it. It's not up to us, to say it's ok to lay bare a personal and private matter. If Yasmin and family wanted this information publicise, I am sure her family would have consented that this so called autobiaography to be written. I don't think their consent was seeked or they were even interviewed to ensure the information was accurate. Of course some news need not seek consent from family members but it should be done out of respect and it also lends credibility to the news being published.If it was written as a tribute to Yasmin, her family should at least have some say in the matter ?
And sincerely speaking would any of us, do this to someone close to us, without even seeking the person's permission first if they are fine with it
Mengenai apa yang diperkatakan tentang tulang rusuk, sebenarnya, dari segi anatomi manusia dan perubatan, tulang rusuk lelaki dan perempuan sama banyak. Sesetengah manusia ada sepasang lebih dan ada yang memiliki sepasang kurang daripada jumlah yang biasa tetapi kelebihan atau kekurangan tulang rusuk ini tidak bergantung pada jantina. Semasa hasil kajian anatomi ini dilaporkan pada kurun ke-16, pihak gereja membantah keras penyelidikan ini kerana bercanggah dengan ajaran Kristian.
"What is wrong with you?"
If anyone gets upset with the Kosmo article which clearly upsets Yasmin's parents, family members and close friends: I think that's an extremely normal reaction. What's wrong with you people who think that as unusual? :)
Put it this way. Kalau ada orang menyebarkan sesuatu berita/perkara yang JELAS sangat melukakan hati ibubapa dan keluarga terdekat seorang kenalan anda yang baru meninggal dunia: how would you react? Tidak kiralah perkara yang disebar itu betul atau tidak. The thing is: it hurts the parents, family members and close friends.
That is the most valid yardstick to 'judge' what are the things that should/can be revealed, and what should be left unsaid. Kalau kita mahu debatkan apa perkara yang boleh dan tidak (tanpa sebarang benchmark) -- sampai kiamat pun tidak selesai.
Of course everyone sees things differently. And, we all are entitled for our own opinions. Tapi 'penggunaan lesen opinion' ini harus pada julat yang munasabah.
I don't know about others, but in the society where I come from -- menghormati mendiang/arwah adalah tuntutan akhlak tertinggi. Bila seseorang meninggal dunia, kita mesti berhenti memperkatakan apa-apa juga tentang si mati -- yang disyaki (potentially) boleh mencetuskan persepsi negatif.
Siapa pernah memandikan mayat? Perkara pertama yang akan diingatkan kepada semua yang terlibat ialah ini: TIDAK BOLEH MEMBAWA SEBARANG PERKARA yang dilihat/dirasa/dialami semasa proses memandikan mayat tersebut ke luar dari bilik mandi. Even among the 'tukang-tukang mandi' themselves -- they are not allowed to talk about it. Yes, ANYTHING AT ALL. Tidak kira benda itu baik atau tidak baik (in our opinion).
That reminder is meant to be taken literally. By all those involved. But in a wider context, that 'reminder' is actually a symbolic statement -- betapa SANGAT perlunya kita menghormati jenazah dan si mati. When it comes to PRIVACY. And that privacy covers everything. Bukan hanya fizikal, tetapi juga sejarah hidup.
I don't necessarily agree with Yasmin's idealism and the way she approached certain issues (no, it was not about the gender issue, ok!). But then, I choosed to confront her when she was still able to defend herself and offer her own take of the dispute. Now, my only choice is to let her soul rest in peace; and to respect her family and close friends.
In fact, this is supposed to be the only option for everyone -- including Kosmo.
Benteh, premis sokongan awak tepat. Tapi kesimpulan awak sangat salah.
Ini kesimpulan yang betul:
"Katakanlah suatu ketika nanti awak mati, tidak kiralah sama ada digilis lori kicap atau kena demam kepialu (hypotehtically speaking only, ok!) -- maka, JANGAN SEKALI-KALI ada mana-mana pihak yang menyebarkan sebarang perkara tentang awak yang boleh/akan melukan hati ibubapa dan keluarga terdekat awak."
Itulah sebenarnya poin utama Marina dalam entri ini. Mungkin awak kurang faham kerana ia ditulis dalam Bahasa Inggeris. Tapi tak apa, belajarlah pelan-pelan. Atau sila bertanya pada orang yang lebih pandai. Berkongsi ilmu, satu amalan mulia, kan? :)
Yasmin cannot but Kugan can, is it?
Hartal MSM
Jul 31, 09
3:47pm
How ironic. When a tabloid belonging to the Utusan group told the truth, there was a firestorm of protest from journalists. But when it spun untruths, there was conspicuous silence.
When the feelings of Yasmin's family were hurt by certain revelations, there was an uproar from advertising agencies and from reporters and socialites who were her friends.
But when the feelings of A. Kugan's family were hurt by the things printed about him, these people, who raised a stink on Yasmin's behalf, were silent.
Utusan reported that Kugan's family 'charged into' and 'broke into' the mortuary to see his battered body. The paper's editorial voice Awang Selamat likened it to a 'Bollywood film'.
He said: "The question is, why are the non-Malays reacting in such an extreme manner when it involves a victim from their own race (ostensibly in the name of civil rights and justice) to the extent of causing the government and the authorities to come under tremendous stress?"
"If all this while Malay leaders had the confidence to confront extremism and militancy that involved many Malay groups, even though they had to face objections raised by some Muslims, why do Indian leaders behave the opposite?"
He accused these Indian leaders of being racists and desiring to become race heroes.
Utusan Malaysia carried another headline warning those concerned over the Kugan case not to behave like braves ['Jangan ada bertindak jadi hero kes kematian Kugan'].
Awang Selamat - taking it upon himself to speak for his race - claims that Malays and bumiputera organisations see non-Malays as getting too big for their britches ["kaduk naik junjung"].
On the Yasmin story, the tabloid belonging to Utusan group has published a front page banner apology after its staff were castigated by opinion leader Marina as "some truly low creatures".
So will we see a similar pressure put on Utusan Malaysia for its other low blows against Malaysians who are neither rich nor famous?
haha, I like the way Rem wrote comments. So lecturing style but yet not hurting.. ;P
I totally agree with you Marina...it is sad when some people decide that the way to sell papers and make more money is by disgracing and defaming others....truly sad!!!
Mitch
kadangkala kematian itu adalah baik pada seseorang. ditakdirkan kalau dia terus hidup, banyak lagi kerosakan yang ada potensi dia buat.
komen ini tiada kaitan dengan altantuya.
Bagi saya tidak ada salahnya artikel kosmo itu.
Kenyataan adalah kenyataan dan orang akan memperkatakan apa yang seseorang manusia itu lakukan semasa hayatnya. Samada orang akan mengatakannya kemudian atau sekarang hanyalah faktor penentu masa sahaja.
Apa yang menjadi persoalan adalah tentang sikap dan perlakuan kita semasa kita hidup. Jika kita menjalani hidup sebagai rakyat bawahan atau rakyat biasa maka apabila mati kita akan dikenang sebegitu sahaja.
Tetapi jika kehidupan kita penuh dengan populariti , glamor , kontroversi , bekas pemimpin dan apa sahaja label yang boleh menaikkan nama kita diatas dunia maka kita akan dikenang sebagai sebagai salah seorang yang "berpengaruh" dalam masyarakat. Dan segala cerita tentang perjalanan hidup kita akan didedahkan dan diketahui oleh orang ramai.
Saya percaya jika Kosmo tidak siarkan berita tersebut , akan ada akhbar lain yang menyiarkan nya kemudian atau laman web dan blog akan mendahului berita tersebut.
Jadi berita tersebut pasti akan tersebar juga. Hanya masa yang menentukan.
Saya rasa tak perlu kita perbesar dan mensensasikan perkara ini atau meracuni fikiran orang ramai bahawa akhbar KOSMO telah mengaibkan Arwah Yasmin.
P/s: kalau laman web atau blog yang siarkan dahulu adakah akan ada bantahan seperti ini...? Adakah Dato Marina akan menghambat mereka juga seperti mana Dato lakukan kepada KOSMO ini..?
omg, ape yang hanizar merepek ni? ape 'kerosakan potensi' yang mungkin Yasmin Ahmad buat??
There will not be a day kosmo not publishing something to do with sex. It's either some artist juicy story, rape cases reported in detail to arouse or something to do with sex trade. It is disgusting......
hanizar and mat kilau...i am sorry but i feel disgusted by your immature comments...
to hanizar: when you mention that death is the best resort for yasmin since she is a big threat to the society...can u be more specific on ur statement?what do u mean when you wrote 'kerosakan potensi;...who grants you with the rights to justify that she is better dead as she has brought too much of damages to the society?do you know her in person to even judge and justify all her good and bad deeds?
To Mat Kilau,
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Kenyataan adalah kenyataan dan orang akan memperkatakan apa yang seseorang manusia itu lakukan semasa hayatnya. Samada orang akan mengatakannya kemudian atau sekarang hanyalah faktor penentu masa sahaja.' so what had she done that she deserves to be humiliated in such a way by Kosmo? why did the newspaper so eager to dig up about her past life....about someone is now a deceased..apparently someone who can never clarify the truth because she is no longer with us?what is kosmo's purpose to publish such story while her parents are still mourning on the passing of their beloved daughter?why cant they write about her enourmous contributions in bridging the racial gaps among malaysians and so on?
you wrote that'Saya percaya jika Kosmo tidak siarkan berita tersebut , akan ada akhbar lain yang menyiarkan nya kemudian atau laman web dan blog akan mendahului berita tersebut.
Jadi berita tersebut pasti akan tersebar juga. Hanya masa yang menentukan;
oh really cause ive seen none of the papers do so...and kosmo seems to 'act' alone in publishing this kinda 'juicy' story....
Khunsa seperti mana yang kita tahu is clearly susah nak ujud so Yasmin or Zulikifli most probably is transexual. Kosmo did was in bad taste that is true. FYI if you are hormone pills the chances of you to get a stroke is very high. You can verify it with any reputable doctors. I leave it at that
Is a person who is intersex a hermaphrodite?
No. The mythological term “hermaphrodite” implies that a person is both fully male and fully female. This is a physiologic impossibility.
The words “hermaphrodite” and “pseudo-hermaphrodite” are stigmatizing and misleading words. Unfortunately, some medical personnel still use them to refer to people with certain intersex conditions, because they still subscribe to an outdated nomenclature that uses gonadal anatomy as the basis of sex classification. In a paper titled Changing the Nomenclature/Taxonomy for Intersex: A Scientific and Clinical Rationale, five ISNA-associated experts recommend that all terms based on the root “hermaphrodite” be abandoned because they are scientifically specious and clinically problematic. The terms fail to reflect modern scientific understandings of intersex conditions, confuse clinicians, harm patients, and panic parents. We think it is much better for everyone involved when specific condition names are used in medical research and practice.
To read more about the Victorian origins of the medical terminology of “true” and “pseudo” hermaphroditism, check out chapter 5 of Alice Dreger’s Hermaphrodites and the Medical Invention of Sex which is available at our bookshelf, or go to our FAQ called What’s the history behind the intersex rights movement?.
One more thing: While some intersex people seek to reclaim the word “hermaphrodite” with pride to reference themselves (much like the words “dyke” and “queer” have been reclaimed by LBGT people), we’ve learned over the years it is best generally avoided, since the political subtlety is lost on a lot of people.I hope this help
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