Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Oh..so now JAKIM's in on it...

Just when you thought Dr. Asri's arrest was just a Selangor JAIS foul-up, guess who wades in as well! This makes it interesting doesn't it, since JAKIM is a Federal Government institution??? 

Is this a case of all sorts of resentment and hatred all spilling out? 

Jakim: Asri palsukan kelulusan Syariah

KUALA LUMPUR 2 Nov. - Bekas Mufti Perlis, Dr. Mohd. Asri Zainul Abidin didakwa memalsukan kelayakannya dalam bidang syariah di peringkat ijazah Sarjana Muda (Kepujian) Bahasa Arab/Syariah dari Universiti Jordan.

Penolong Pengarah Institut Latihan Islam Malaysia (ILIM), Jabatan Kemajuan Islam Malaysia (Jakim), Zamihan Mat Zain AlGhari mendedahkan, berdasarkan pemeriksaannya, bidang pengkhususan Asri hanya melibatkan Bahasa Arab dan Sastera.

"Universiti Jordan tidak menawarkan dua pengkhususan dalam satu ijazah. Sekiranya seseorang itu berkelulusan syariah, minor pengajian biasanya melibatkan bidang berkaitan seperti 'fiqh wa usul'.
"Pengajian Bahasa Arab dibenarkan untuk mengambil minor Syariah tetapi hanya sebagai subjek elektif.
Sekiranya ia diambil sebagai elektif, maka ia tidak dikira sebagai pelajar syariah," katanya ketika dihubungi Utusan Malaysia di sini hari ini.

Beliau mengulas tindakan Jabatan Agama Islam Selangor (JAIS) menahan Mohd. Asri selepas beliau menyampaikan kuliah di sebuah kediaman di Taman Sri Ukay semalam. (Now why should JAKIM mengulas tindakan JAIS when JAIS themselves couldn't at the court yesterday?)

Penahanan Mohd. Asri pada pukul 12 tengah malam itu disebabkan beliau menyampaikan kuliah tanpa tauliah. (But they didn't charge him with that.)
 

Dalam pada itu, Zamihan berkata, tindakan JAIS adalah berlandaskan Akta Kesalahan Syariah yang diguna pakai di seluruh negeri di bawah kuasa Sultan sebagai Ketua Agama Islam dan Adat Istiadat Negeri.
Menurutnya, kebenaran mengajar agama di seluruh negeri memerlukan pentauliahan bagi menjamin keharmonian pegangan agama umat Islam di negara ini.

"Tidak kira seseorang itu professor sekalipun, dia perlu memohon dan menghadiri temu duga yang dijalankan oleh pihak agama Islam negeri," katanya. (OK, let's see the list of those who are bertauliah then.)
 
Beliau turut mendakwa, pendekatan Asri banyak menggunakan metodologi fahaman Wahabi iaitu sayap dalam Islam yang memahami ajaran agama secara ekstrem. (I guess it's extreme if you propagate being nice to your non-Muslim friends, to animals, and saying that women should get a better deal?)
 

Menurutnya, golongan tersebut tidak mengikut pendekatan mazhab yang diamalkan di negara ini.
"Bacaan talkin, tahlil, wirid, qunut dan bacaan surah Yasin pada malam Jumaat semuanya dikatakan bidaah sekali gus mengelirukan masyarakat di negara ini.
"Selain itu, kebanyakan hujahnya juga banyak bertentangan dengan fatwa yang dikeluarkan Majlis Fatwa Kebangsaan," katanya. (Including ridiculous fatwas against yoga. Lots of us don't agree with that either.)

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Well, well, well... if this is the case, let us check all the qualifications of every single Mufti in the country then. And those in high office as well. Say, the Minister in the PM's Department in charge of religious affairs ( and in charge of JAKIM) and that two-for-one Deputy Minister with all the make-up?


Meanwhile, I think Dr. Asri should simply sue JAKIM for defamation. And that comes into the purview of the civil courts. If anyone says he should go into the syariah courts instead, then we are well and truly up the creek.

31 comments:

Ban Ban said...

The following conversation is just merely my little composition adapted from the real life.

A: "You are extremists! Why are you so narrow-minded until to think that yoga will affect the faith of yours?"
B: "You are the real extremists! You don't even know what our true teachings are and yet you are booming here and there!"
A: "There the extremists that we say! We are already living in a globalized world and yet you are still having such a conservative mind!"
B: "How much you know about our teachings? If everyone follows the teachings as prescribed, there will be no more fights, crimes and etc..."
The quarrel goes on.

asha'man said...

"Bacaan talkin, tahlil, wirid, qunut dan bacaan surah Yasin pada malam Jumaat semuanya dikatakan bidaah sekali gus mengelirukan masyarakat di negara ini."
Please ask these "confused" people to go to Perlis where they could see for themselves that such bidaah things are not carried out, and yet the muslims in Perlis are still fine with it.

donplaypuks® said...

If the majority true Muslims in M'sia o not stand up, speak out & nip this sort of of "over-exunerant" behaviour from JAIS & Jakim NOW and rein in these persecutionists, the day is not far off when we will become a Taliban state!

It's astonishing that there has been across the board concern by MP's in Parliament over this issue (including a highly perplexed PM) and now JAKIM enters the fray, obviously in absolute defiance of a democratically elected Govt's concerns!!

PM Najib must lay down the law about who is in charge!

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

juanajaafar said...

which creek is this again? :]

Dense said...

How long will it take the "true muslims' of Malaysia to break out of their religious indoctrinated prisons and realise that Islam and its products... muslims are the worst thing that ever happened to this country ( the world?)

mangchikla said...

""Bacaan talkin, tahlil, wirid, qunut dan bacaan surah Yasin pada malam Jumaat semuanya dikatakan bidaah sekali gus mengelirukan masyarakat di negara ini."

Funny u shld mention the above as most masjid n suraus in Selangor itself has not done fo quite a number of years.... the guys out touch with reality, muakakakakakakak

NutzeyWagen said...

Dr Mohd Asri Zainal Abidin, I've been following you since you were the Perlis mufti. And bcos of you, I 'nearly' became a muslim, but thank God, with jais/jakim around, I didn't. You are the moderate, they are the extreme. God be with you in your time of need, come rain or shine!

Jestmelah said...

Najib's reaction to this will reveal
whether he is a hero, a hypocrite or
a pondan.

Joseph a.k.a. Apom Balik said...

jestmelah, mind ur language, dun insult pondan.

justme said...

Me thinks Bolehland has too many religious regulatory bodies, where many controversial rulings were made.
And to quote above--"(Including ridiculous fatwas against yoga. Lots of us don't agree with that either.)"
I believe this was made for fear of Muslims losing their faith and identity.As a non Muslim, i think that is too far fetch.If a little exposure can cause Muslims to lose their faith, then I would venture to say, those religious regulatory bodies has no faith at all in regards to the Muslim community at large.
Lets look at it this way, tens of thousands of young Muslim students are sent abroad, to practically every corner of the world every year, and majority are exposed to multiple cultures and beliefs, ranging from the ever so fond "decadent USA" to the middle east.
My question is, has our religious regulatory bodies done any research on how many of our returning Muslim students renounce their faith ?
Why are they not fearful of the "decadent west's" influence?

David Lee said...

............what the f.......is going on....................tell them that is human nature why...why.....god save malaysia.

Anis Yusoff said...

if the JAIS/JAKIM people are so gungho....ask them to go organise tahlil and baca yassin beramai-ramai di Masjidil Haram. tengok siapa yang akan kena tangkap.

Anis Yusoff said...

Kak--if the JAIS/JAKIM people are so gungho....ask them to go organise tahlil and baca yassin beramai-ramai di Masjidil Haram. tengok siapa yang akan kena tangkap.

Salam, Big Dek

johan5150 said...

Dear Marina,
Bumped into ustaz mahfuz who
is quite a big gun on the other side.he says gonna get gabungan muftis to write a support note for jais.
M no extremist and just a simple sometimes practising moslem.

Live and let live!

Jo

A. Alshukor said...

In the end, everyone wants a piece to say. This is an issue of whose opinion versus who are in authority.

Islam as a religion, you then compare with other religion. Since an individual feels that his/her choice is the best, he will defend them.

If you look at Islam as a way of life, you cannot compare with others because the way that it was thought by the Prophets through the AlQuran and the Hadith. Either you do and follow ACCORDINGLY or you decide what you agree or disagree.

The problems actually, is the real knowledge about Islam. The prophet has mentioned in one of his hadith ... Islam will be divided into 73 groupings, 72 will enter Hell while ONE.

For all you believer ... Are you in the one????

Jestmelah said...

Joseph, I apologise (wow, I'm impressed!).

Should have been:
"Najib's reaction to this will reveal whether he is a hero, a hypocrite or a coward."

Hani said...

What the Quran says about being a true muslim.

Surah Baqarah Ayat 177 (2:177).

Ia bukanlah ketaatan bahawa kamu memalingkan muka kamu ke Timur dan ke Barat, tetapi ketaatan adalah

1) percaya kepada Allah,
2) dan Hari Akhir,
3) dan malaikat-malaikat,
4) dan Kitab-Kitab,
5) dan Nabi-Nabi;
6) dan memberikan harta, walaupun dicintainya, kepada
a.sanak saudara,
b.dan anak-anak yatim,
c.dan orang-orang miskin,
d.dan musafir,
e.dan orang-orang yang meminta-minta;
7) dan memerdekakan hamba,
8) dan melakukan solat,
9) dan memberikan zakat,
10) dan mereka yang menepati perjanjian mereka, apabila mereka membuat perjanjian,
11) dan orang-orang yang sabar
a.dalam kecelakaan,
b.dan kesusahan,
c.dan bencana.

Mereka inilah orang-orang yang bertakwa (takut kepada Tuhan) dengan benar.

Salam

RITZ CHEWAN said...

I think that it is not whether it is about true teachings, but where we draw the line between "discussion and understanding" and "dogma".

Unfortunately in our country religion- specifically Islam remains in the hands of the religious elite.

It is no wonder that many Muslims having been disallowed to engage in their own religion, resort to the very Ideas accessible to them but opposed to by the so called 'Ulama'.

RITZ CHEWAN said...

A.Alshukor- 73 ways and 73 doors only 1 will reach heaven.

I believe that 1 is 1Ummah not 1 out of 73.

The way the Prophet united the Pagan Arabs, the Christian Arabs and the Jewish (Arabs?) under the Flag of of the Nation of Islam.

Jestmelah said...

Ritz Chewan wrote: "Unfortunately in our country religion- specifically Islam remains in the hands of the religious elite."

That's true.

With the exception of Dr Asri & a few others, the majority of the "religious elite" are:

1) bigots who never mixed with other muslims of other convictions, much less non-muslims

2) people who were not exactly straight-A students

3) can only understand one language and thus not able to explore beyond their own world-view

4) sexists who see women as the submissive race

5) never used to the idea that there is a possibility that their own position may not be 100% right all the time

Why should the mentally-challenged lead the real elite?

How many follow (re: Hani above)Surah Baqarah Ayat 177 (2:177)?

Altantuya said...

Dato' Marina, appreciate your standing up for Dr Asri. Can you also stand up for the East Malaysian Christians whose 15,000 Bibles have been illegally withheld?

If you do that, you will have earned the eternal respect from me & my tribe.

sanooaung said...

Assalamualaikum

What about Burmese Refugees or Migrants especially Burmese Muslims and Rohingyas. According to ISLAM, Quran, we even have the RIGHT to claim the properties from all of you, Malay Muslims. But we are even denied the RIGHTS you had given to other Foreign Migrants in your country.Just let all of us stay peacefully here. We are even willing to pay all the fees you demand. Why so difficult to just issue permits to work or study here?

Even one of your Former PM Tun AAB told the Thai Nation newspaper to push back the Rohingyas into the Indian Ocean (to let them die). He is now heading a prestigious Islamic organization.

I want a FATWA on all these. If Jakim and Islamic authorities in Malaysia could not accept the following words of Islam mentioned in Quran or keep quiet on all those injustices perpetrated on Muslim Migrants by your people and authorities, Jakim and all the religious leaders would be found guilty infront of Alah on the JUDGEMENT DAY. Becareful Ulamas, you could not use your AG, IGP, CJ, or even lawyers and CABLES to influence Allah's decisions.

I know that you all are very powerful here and could disturb me but I am afraid of Allah ONLY. If you punish me, I believe I could claim your good deeds or transfer my sins to all of you, infront of Allah the Almighty.

وَفِىٓ أَمۡوَٲلِهِمۡ حَقٌّ۬ لِّلسَّآٮِٕلِ وَٱلۡمَحۡرُومِ (١٩)

وَمَآ أَرۡسَلۡنَـٰكَ إِلَّا رَحۡمَةً۬ لِّلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (١٠٧)

يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لَا تُحِلُّواْ شَعَـٰٓٮِٕرَ ٱللَّهِ وَلَا ٱلشَّہۡرَ ٱلۡحَرَامَ وَلَا ٱلۡهَدۡىَ وَلَا ٱلۡقَلَـٰٓٮِٕدَ وَلَآ ءَآمِّينَ ٱلۡبَيۡتَ ٱلۡحَرَامَ يَبۡتَغُونَ فَضۡلاً۬ مِّن رَّبِّہِمۡ وَرِضۡوَٲنً۬ا‌ۚ وَإِذَا حَلَلۡتُمۡ فَٱصۡطَادُواْ‌ۚ وَلَا يَجۡرِمَنَّكُمۡ شَنَـَٔانُ قَوۡمٍ أَن صَدُّوڪُمۡ عَنِ ٱلۡمَسۡجِدِ ٱلۡحَرَامِ أَن تَعۡتَدُواْ‌ۘ وَتَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى ٱلۡبِرِّ وَٱلتَّقۡوَىٰ‌ۖ وَلَا تَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى ٱلۡإِثۡمِ وَٱلۡعُدۡوَٲنِ‌ۚ وَٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ‌ۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ شَدِيدُ ٱلۡعِقَابِ (٢)

مِنۡ أَجۡلِ ذَٲلِكَ ڪَتَبۡنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِىٓ إِسۡرَٲٓءِيلَ أَنَّهُ ۥ مَن قَتَلَ نَفۡسَۢا بِغَيۡرِ نَفۡسٍ أَوۡ فَسَادٍ۬ فِى ٱلۡأَرۡضِ فَڪَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ ٱلنَّاسَ جَمِيعً۬ا وَمَنۡ أَحۡيَاهَا فَڪَأَنَّمَآ أَحۡيَا ٱلنَّاسَ جَمِيعً۬ا‌ۚ وَلَقَدۡ جَآءَتۡهُمۡ رُسُلُنَا بِٱلۡبَيِّنَـٰتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرً۬ا مِّنۡهُم بَعۡدَ ذَٲلِكَ فِى ٱلۡأَرۡضِ لَمُسۡرِفُونَ (٣٢)

Wahai umat manusia! Sesungguhnya Kami telah menciptakan kamu dari lelaki dan perempuan dan Kami telah menjadikan kamu berbagai bangsa dan bersuku puak, supaya kamu berkenal-kenalan (dan beramah mesra antara satu dengan yang lain). Sesungguhnya semulia-mulia kamu di sisi Allah ialah orang yang lebih takwanya di antara kamu, (bukan yang lebih keturunan atau bangsanya). Sesungguhnya Allah Maha Mengetahui, lagi Maha Mendalam PengetahuanNya (akan keadaan dan amalan kamu). (13)

Dan pada harta-harta mereka, (ada pula bahagian yang mereka tentukan menjadi) hak untuk orang miskin yang meminta dan orang miskin yang menahan diri (daripada meminta). (19)

Wasalaam
Khoda Hafiz

Dr Zafar Shah

alfijam said...

I wouldn't worry too much about the ustaz. Always believe you can't put a good man down.

I only worry that he will join a political party and become a politician. And where will we be?
This man can be the conscience of the nation. If he joins a political party then he loses the moral authority to scold our many misbehaving politicians.


Datin, as you say you are a personal friend of Dr Asri, please, please send him this message. I am sure there are many out there who feel like I do.

Muhammad Amir Hashim said...

I agree with alfijam. Please remind him to not enter any political party, thus his word to scold our many misbehaving politicians will be accepted by rakyat. We really need people like him to neutralise and balance the situation. If he joins any political party, rakyat will say that his opinion is the game to win the power.

Let's make the politic clean from any bad person.

MarinaM said...

Alfijam, message passed on.

Altantunya, I am on Twitter which makes me lazy to blog because Twitter is so much more efficient and quick. I Tweeted re the 15000 Bibles story at least a day before it came out in the papers already. No time to also do a blogpost unfortunately.

Dr Zafar, indeed! We should be ashamed at the way we treat refugees here. First thing to do is sign the UN Convention on Refugees and recognise them. Same goes for trafficked persons and foreign workers in this country.

alfijam said...

Thank you, Datin.
May Allah bless your dad and keep him in good health.

Muhammad Amir Hashim, thank you too for sharing my concern. Who knows maybe someone, a neutral body, may start a petition to ask Dr Asri not to join any political party.
I don't know if you noticed, but every politician of every stripe berlumba2 to outdo each other in condemning JAIS and embracing Asri. Ustaz, you're the hottest ticket right now.

Altantuya said...

Dato Marina, must try Tweeter some day. Ain't into technology; still riding horses & shooting arrows when man has reached the moon 40 years ago!

For your support of Dr Asri & the 15,000 Bibles, my tribe & herd of horses are your slaves forever.

Joseph a.k.a. Apom Balik said...

Altantuya, you are so easily sold out.. =.=

Altantuya said...

Joseph, I'm dead remember?

Buyung Adil said...

Joseph, learn to laugh at jokes. Try cracking some sometime. Altantuya has probably never seen a horseshoe before in her life.

Jestmelah said...

I wrote "Najib's reaction to this will reveal whether he is a hero, a hypocrite or a coward."

Well...he's not a hero.